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Journal of Clinical Oncology, Vol 26, No 21 (July 20), 2008: pp. 3657-3658 © 2008 American Society of Clinical Oncology. DOI: 10.1200/JCO.2008.18.0927
In ReplyDepartment of Experimental Hematology and Oncology, Clinic for Internal Medicine II, Friedrich Schiller University Jena, Jena, Germany Thank you for transmitting to us the Letter to the Editor from Cristofanilli, Reuben, and Uhr in response to our publication in Journal of Clinical Oncology. Regarding their issues we would like to answer as follows: First, Cristofanilli et al claim that "even with the use of enrichment technologies the detection of CTCs can vary between 10% and 15% in primary breast cancer." However, in earlier publications from the same authors,2-4 they report on higher percentages of CTC: 13 of 14 patients with breast cancer without detectable spread4; 13 of 36 dormancy candidates, 7 to 22 years after mastectomy and without evidence of clinical disease2; 12 of 37 patients with no evidence of disease3; respectively. These discrepancies may, in part, depend on methodological modifications:
Second, Cristofanilli et al also criticize that patients with metastatic disease were not included as an additional control group. The aim of the present research was the analysis of the behavior of CETCs during adjuvant chemotherapy in breast cancer; therefore metastatic patients were not included. We have, however, previously compared the numbers in patients with metastatic versus primary breast cancer,8 and we detect a significantly higher number in patients with metastatic than in primary breast cancer, although with a broad overlap. Third, the question raised by the authors whether tumor volume has any effect on the number of CETCs has already been addressed in a previous publication.12 In patients with untreated breast cancer, CETC numbers correlate with tumor volume. Fourth, in the same publication,12 monitoring of treatment response was investigated in the neoadjuvant setting revealing an excellent correlation of the reduction in CETC to the reduction in tumor volume (r2 > 0.9). Tumor volume reduction was preferred to pathological complete response as a measure of treatment response because in smaller tumors, even if a complete response can be obtained, the reduction may be less than in large tumors with still remnant tumor mass. Fifth, all patients included in the present investigation were by clinical definition in complete remission. Adjuvant treatment is only given to patients in whom measurable or detectable disease by standard imaging techniques is not present. The term complete remission was used as clinically defined and we did not aim at introducing a new concept of complete remission. Sixth, we would like to emphasize that our analyses were restricted to monitoring therapy response. Seventh, the mere presence or absence of CETC with a single analysis is not sufficient to serve for prognostication and complete elimination of CETC (not mononuclear cells) seems not to be necessary for long-lasting complete remissions. It was not the aim of this study to use the presence of CETC to establish an additional prognostic factor. But obviously the response of CETC to any therapy tells us something about their aggressiveness and their ability to metastasize. Therefore this analysis is independent of the therapy schedule applied. Eighth, we admit that the patient group is small. On the other hand, even with this restricted patient sample size, statistical analyses showed highly significant results with a higher hazard ratio than, for example, persistence of micrometastatic disease in bone marrow. Contrary to Cristofanilli et al's allegation the response of the CETCs to therapy was well correlated to standard prognostic factors especially lymph node positivity as shown in Figure 4 of the publication.1 Together with the two additional patient groups analyzed previously8,9 with even longer observation intervals, it now adds up to 141 patients, and more patients will be included into the next update. In summary, in our hands neither the mere presence nor absence of surface epithelial cell adhesion molecule–CETC before or after adjuvant therapy was of prognostic relevance. Such cells can be present obviously in a dormant state for long years even after completion of adjuvant therapy. It is the behavior of these cells in response to therapy that predicts the further course of disease. The behavior of tumor cells in the circulation may be more difficult than previously thought. Certainly it may not be easy for the clinician as well as for the patient to understand that a single analysis of CETC can hardly allow a statement with respect to prognosis. Tumor cells in the circulation that do not have the capability to adhere and grow in distant sites may be irrelevant for prognosis, although they may recirculate and survive in a dormant state for long times as also indicated by the studies of Chambers et al.13 On the other hand, increasing numbers of CETC may signal the release from initial occult metastatic loci and subsequent presence of a population of aggressive tumor cells. There exist numerable homologies in biology. The right timing of therapies, aiming at the CETC discharged on the first round of chemotherapy, especially taxanes, to destroy them in a second round of therapy might help to improve the success of systemic chemotherapies. A multicenter study testing this hypothesis should be the next step comparing the outcome of patients which have been identified as high risk due to their increasing CETC numbers receiving additional cycles of chemotherapy under the monitoring of their CETC with patients treated in the conventional way without further chemotherapy. This might help to clarify the impact of CETC monitoring. AUTHOR'S DISCLOSURES OF POTENTIAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST The author(s) indicated no potential conflicts of interest. REFERENCES
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